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Topic: DCnU Young Justice Family Posted: 13-Feb-2012 at 9:54pm |
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I figured I'd open this up so folks can talk about the YJ slate of books. I'm really enjoying Teen Titans a lot, although I understand that not everyone feels that way.
Lobdell did some neat things that, even though it wiped out the last series' worth of continuity, accepts its existence. For example, using Solstice was a really cool touch. Also, I'm pretty "meh" about Ravagers, but at the same time won't complain if it ends up really good.
Any thoughts?
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Posted: 13-Feb-2012 at 10:30pm |
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Sadly I'm not loving any of the Young Justice books...I just don't think their is another character in any of them. The characters present are all stock characters...from Robin to Kid Flash to Wonder Girl to Superboy...Nothing is special about them or sticks out in my mind...They're just bland.
And the story doesn't interest me much either. Sucks too because Teen Titans during Johns run was what got me into DC and Superboy was one of my favorite characters pre-DCNu
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Posted: 14-Feb-2012 at 12:35am |
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I find myself about middle of the scale on Teen Titans. I can get into it but then it's not fully my cup of tea as the changes in a lot of cases are kind of "eh" to "meh". I'll probably give Ravagers a shot even if I'm kind of not really into what changes are going on there and what we've seen so far.
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Posted: 14-Feb-2012 at 4:09am |
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Not loving TT. It's the only title I've attempted, and this just isn't a positive change at all. Wonder Girl has become so bland and vacuous, Kid Flash and the brick guy just seem to be one-note comedy props, ROBIN irritates me (and I LOVE Tim Drake), and Solstice is just kind of... meh.
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Posted: 16-Feb-2012 at 3:25pm |
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I thought the 1st issues of both Superboy and Teen Titans were great but after that felt both titles really lost momentum, especially Superboy.
N.O.W.H.E.R.E. isn't really a great antagonist. As far as shadowy cabals go, it's been rather bland. Maybe things will pick up when they encounter new enemies.
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Posted: 20-Apr-2012 at 5:21pm |
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I read Superboy, Blue Beetle, and Teen Titans and I'm enjoying them all enough -but I'm not LOVING any of them really. They're not bad but I just don't find myself really getting into the stories.
To me, Lobdell's writing (on both Superboy and TT) is super cheesy to me at this point. A lot of characters state the obvious, most of the comedy and sarcasm is just elementary, and the stories seem to not really go anywhere.
In TT, I was excited about Bunker, until I actually saw how lame his powers were and how much worse his dialogue is. And Skitter is just so lame. The only new character I like on the TT is Solstice because she has a great look and looks to have some interesting ties to N.O.W.H.E.R.E.
Superboy is OK, too much of the same. Was really surprised to see Beast Boy and Terra show up in the last issue though -that's really cool.
LOVING Blue Beetle though. The character concept is awesome and the kid in the suit is both fun and you can easily form a connection with him. His interactions with the scarab are always great too. Love this book.
I dropped both Legion of Superheroes and Legion Lost after their first issues.
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Posted: 03-May-2012 at 5:28pm |
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Double post, I know, but is anyone reading the Culling storyline?
The Teen Titans annual came out yesterday and it kicks off the 4-part story that's running through Superboy, Legion Lost, Teen Titans, and then the new book, Ravagers. The annual was actually really very good. I would recommend it to anyone who has dropped or was thinking about picking up TT. How the stories are weaving together is being done well and then new book coming out of this story looks really promising... I'm excited about Beast Boy and Terra, mostly!
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Posted: 04-May-2012 at 3:05pm |
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I wasn't expecting the culling to basically be hunger games but I enjoyed this first part. Glad this teen titans nowhere arc Is finally seemingly coming to a head. Sucks that Artemis is dead already. I'm assuming she was supposed to be the version from young justice, I would have enjoyed seeing her in the titans or in the ravagers book.
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Posted: 04-May-2012 at 4:19pm |
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Yeah, same. I was disappointed in her offing to quickly. And like you say, I'm excited this NOWHERE arc seems to be wrapping up... I'm ready to see where the TT go after this! And I'm really into reading Ravagers for BB and Terra.
Were Thunder and Lightning characters in the old DCU?
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Posted: 04-May-2012 at 10:01pm |
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Yes, they were.
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Posted: 05-May-2012 at 6:06pm |
I agree with Lorr. All this buildup to the Culling and it's the Hunger Games...which I just saw a few days before. WTF--? 
But...so far, so good.
I'm loving it, but it does make me wonder where do TT and Superboy go from here. Since by the end of it, Superboy will be a member of the team. And the team was all about NOWHERE. Maybe the fact that Solistice found out that thing about Red Robin?...
I'm so behind on LoSH and LL that it's not even funny.
But I love Scott Lobdell...though it has become really obvious which of his books is his baby (*cough*Red Hood*cough*)
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Posted: 07-May-2012 at 4:51pm |
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Yeah, Lobdell set up a number of things in TT that need to be addressed (Solstice's background, Skitter being 2 beings put together (St. Croix style), KF's powers going crazy, Wonder Girl's armor killing her, etc.) so he could go almost anywhere. Just curious to see how he'll mix in the team drama with action and villains.
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Posted: 07-May-2012 at 6:32pm |
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I think KF is either Inertia or a twisted version of Bart.
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Posted: 11-May-2012 at 4:05pm |
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I think you might be right about the twisted version of Bart, BC. Take a look at the latest issues of Superboy and Legion Lost (both are part of the Culling crossover). There, both Timberwolf and Tellus allude to it.
Is anyone reading/into the Culling storyline? It's pretty basic so you're not really missing much but I like where I think this is heading. Still not interested in keeping up with Legion Lost post event though. Just a really boring team and cast, IMO.
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Posted: 11-May-2012 at 4:55pm |
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Is the legion lost book worth getting only for the crossover? I picked up batman and robin for night of the owls, but honestly I could have skipped it.
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Posted: 11-May-2012 at 7:54pm |
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For Night of the Owls, I picked up Batman & Robin, Batgirl, Batwing, Dark Knight, and Nightwing in addition to Batman which I already collect. I think you can skip pretty much all of them but I will say that I liked Batgirl and Nightwing a lot. And Batman & Robin was interesting because I got to know Damien a little. But they're all so loosely connected that you can skip 'em.
The Culling is an actual crossover where the issues lead into each other and the story continues through each. But, honestly, you can skip the Legion Lost issue I think... almost nothing really happens. I can spoil it for you if you want.
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DON'T YOU DARE!!!
Oh. Sorry. Haven't read LEGION yet. 
But yeah...not only am I a Scott Lobdell fan, but I'm a late Wildstorm fan so I'm picking up the crossover for the appearances of Wildstorm characters alone (Fuji, Fairchild, Warblade...)
So far, it's okay. I just thought that given that there was so much buildup in both books there would be more...epic feel to it than anything. Maybe its the writer in me, but it's kinda like how I feel about the fanfic season I did. I had so many ideas to it, but even I have to say it's just...there. I've done better. same feeling here. There's so much subplot that could have been flitered to their next logical level in all books. I suspect the only book (I'm behind on it so I can't be sure) where there's a natural progression in plot going on would be LEGION LOST with the whole Harvest might be behind the hypervirus thingy that was showed in the first arc. I don't get that from SUPERBOY or TEEN TITANS barring NOWHERE where we have a lot to learn.
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Posted: 12-May-2012 at 9:47pm |
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Agree with you... the story is just there... doesn't feel epic at all
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Posted: 31-May-2012 at 6:49pm |
Finally got caught up with LEGION LOST.
Loved the Culling prelude.
That said, done with the Culling and...it was just...not meh. It was just that nothing got resolved really. And on top of that, just watching the stories spun off into several different directions that (barring TT cuz I HATE dinosaurs) I'm intrigued by.
So RAVAGERS?
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Posted: 31-May-2012 at 9:49pm |
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Need to pick Ravagers up soon. I read the preview though and the dialogue was pretty painful.
With TT, it just feels like a total mash-up of stuff and no real resolution to anything. Lobdell, dude, they need a reset button... they need a chance to establish themselves as a team, figure out how they will be organized, where they will live even. He's just sending them from story to story to story and we havent even gotten a chance to breathe and see if they are a real team or not. Just feels like he's piling on too much and not giving any of it a chance to settle in.
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Posted: 01-Jun-2012 at 12:12am |
Originally posted by Tyler5618
Need to pick Ravagers up soon. I read the preview though and the dialogue was pretty painful.
With TT, it just feels like a total mash-up of stuff and no real resolution to anything. Lobdell, dude, they need a reset button... they need a chance to establish themselves as a team, figure out how they will be organized, where they will live even. He's just sending them from story to story to story and we havent even gotten a chance to breathe and see if they are a real team or not. Just feels like he's piling on too much and not giving any of it a chance to settle in.
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Now I could be wrong here Tyler but I think the issue is that Lobdell isn't writing this like its a rebooted series. Let me explain.
For all intents and purposes this is the first Teen Titans and a brand new team with like 99% of the heroes being brand new heroes. Red Robin, the most recognizable of the group, is the one character with history and a past in superheroing, so if anything he should be the backbone of the book (which, to be fair, he is). But what about the rest of them?
If this was just a Titans (no reboot) book then I could excuse alot of this because we'd have established histories and relationships to talk about, refer to, and draw upon as readers. Instead we have a group of new characters setting a precedent as essentially the first team of this type and no type of cohesion is being shown. THis still feels like a group of disparate heroes fighting together.
I get that the first arc is the "Get the band togehter" arc and I'm totally cool with that. But at least we could have gotten more into the mind of Bunker, Solstice, and Skitter. I feel like I known nothing about them and that I don't care too much for them beyond surface stuff and visuals. Then you have the mysteries surrounding Cassie and Kid Flash, which is cool and one of the highlights of the run.
I think he should have waited on the Culling thing and the Culling story should have had a better resolution. I get that he is trying to sprinkle things but I felt like with a story like this that bad guy dude (forgot his name already) should have been defeated. He could have faked it like Sinister but this felt hollow.
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Posted: 01-Jun-2012 at 7:01pm |
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Couldn't agree more, BC!
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Posted: 01-Jun-2012 at 7:03pm |
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I really tried to love Teen Titans but I just couldn't. The characters are one dimensional, the dialogue is horrible, the art is ugly, the pacing is off, the plot goes no where and the team has no chemistry. There is just nothing I enjoy about this book, which sucks since it has three of my favorite pre-52Nu characters in it.
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Posted: 01-Jun-2012 at 9:47pm |
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BC is right. TT really could use a few of those low action "get to know this member" issues. I have a vague idea of what makes Bunker and Solstice tick, but an issue or two dedicated to us getting to know them through another team member could work wonders. Skitter just needs to go away though.
Johns' knew how to perfectly mix action, relationship building, and character spotlights throughout each issue. This series so far has been 80% action, and 10% dedicated to those other two categories. Because of this, sadly my. My attention is dwindling. It hasn't gotten to the point where I am considering dropping it, but it has moved from day one reading to "whenever I get around to it". Thats never a good sign.
Edited by Lorr - 01-Jun-2012 at 9:47pm
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Posted: 01-Jun-2012 at 10:44pm |
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I think Lobdell avoided that problem with other books bevause they had history to draw on. Here essentially he's creating history.
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