ECCC12: AvX

Well I hope they scrapped the Hope is Jean idea so they can bring back Jean separately..Or maybe Jean will emerge from Hope like one of those creatures from Alien.

That would be awesome.

Or maybe she'd just regenerate.  Oh! Have her display a power unseen in Marvel but used in DC comics occasionally.  Czarnian Regeneration!  Shoot a Czarnian's arm off and not only do they grow a new arm, but the arm grows into a new Czarnian.

Edited by marhawkman - 03-Apr-2012 at 2:11pm

I rather like the original idea. Having Jean be the baby in Messiah Complex would have made everything infinitely more interesting:
- Having Cable still take her into the future and raise her, mirroring how she raised him in the future.
- Having Jean return as a teen and looking at Cable as her father, mourning his death -- hating Cyclops for letting him die.
- Having Cyclops deal with a teenaged version of his wife hating him while Emma struggles to keep it together.

Basically, put Jean into Hope's entire life and instantly the story is more interesting to me.

Im so glad they didnt do it that way...but as UScott said it still not be well received either. Damned if you do and so on...

Where I think a reborn teenage Jean could have been useful is in working with the other teens.  After all, the main issue with the other younglings in the X-franchise is that, no matter what they get into no matter how heroic they are, there's still a generation gap between them and the older adults that will never be bridged as long as the franchise makes it clear that Kitty and Jubilee were the only ones that the X-Men cared enough to try to view as equal components of a happy functioning team.

Jean as a teenager, her old friends and colleagues finding it slightly awkward to deal with her, would force her to work more with the younger generation and she could do them a world of good, serving as a voice of experience that yet they could relate to on a direct age level because she couldn't take for granted or forget that she used to be their age because she's their age again.  Sorta like how Jubilee interacted with most kids not named Surge before she went vampire.

Jean could have been the bridge between the grown-ups and the kiddies if the original idea with Hope-as-Jean went through with everything else about Hope's progression remained the same.


Edited by Ciel - 03-Apr-2012 at 10:53pm

I think the main thing is that Ciel's idea is a good one and it would have been a good way to bridge the gap, but from what we've seen outside a few writers no one seems to have any good ideas what to do with the youths and a teen Jean would have been screwed up somehow lol.

Hope is a tool of Nanny.

I said it way back when,. that Hope was supposed to be Baby Jean.

Reborn as baby Jean would've been fine but I can imagine her growing to adult hood by time traveling with Cable and coming back to the X-men (preUtopia) and being the militant, defender of the endangered species like Cyclops is now. Since she isn't the "moral center" of the X-men anymore, Cyclops has a hard time dealing with this and has Emma lead them into creating a new school, not in Westchester but elsewhere while Jean sets up Utopia. So there's a role reversal of what we see now and a new-er Jean that is stronger and not dependent on her relationship with either Scott, Logan or the Phoenix force.

I'm glad they dropped the idea, probably because of the vitriol against the idea that came out of the internet. And you know what? I don't blame them for saying that it was never the case at the start, too. The same way the internet assumed Daredevil was Ronin from the get-go, it led to a change. This time, at least, that change was for the better.

I could do without the inevitable Hope codenaming of "Jeanager."