Avengers vs X-Men #8

Well Namor's down... Gotta admit Bendis writes one cool-ass Xavier lol

Its no Hickman but easily the best issue of a crossover Bendis has written in years lol
Mainly because its mostly fight and featured an old favorite of mine, Kubert. For lovers of the 90s this was oddly nostalgic in a good way.

Edited by Blackcyclops - 18-Jul-2012 at 4:10pm

I too have to admit that, though this was Bendis, the issue was pretty good.  Granted, it was all fight, but he does write a cool Xavier.  Just four issues left!  (If you don't count AvX: Consequences... and A Plus X...)

Not knowing really anything about Iron Fist and Kun Lun, I feel generally "meh" about that part of the story.  I know it'll have some significance, and I'm excited to see what happens, but for readers like me, that whole part seems kind of, ".....and?"

Also, maybe I misinterpreted something somewhere (or missed a "Vs" issue because I don't read them) but didn't Beast drop out?  Didn't he say that the P5 were doing good for the world, and he didn't see any good reason to stand in their way?  Why would he still be around, fighting the P5?

I'm curious as to how the rest of the P5 are going to blow their stack.  Does it truly boil down to Scott vs. Emma?  If that's the case do they try and take the power from Piotr or Illyana?  Color me interested.

I agree it is accentuating their bad traits (and good ones)...but let's be clear Silver Age Namor was that big of an A-hole LOL...


The Phoenix Force reverts you to Silver and Golden Age personalities LOL

I thought it was pretty good. Nothing fantastic. Devoid of lots of emotion, per the usual, at least until the very end.

It seems it(and Uncanny) are setting up the X-Men not being on the Phoenixs side. I guess they'll rally behind Xavier.

Of course we got no reaction from Storm this issue, even though he had the perfect opportunity to do so. It's Bendis, can't expect anything to deep.

The Phoenix 4 are definitely bad news...So which will die? Namor is out now....

so far the Kun Lun angle has just been a place to house Hope so that the P5 can't find her. Maybe those stories about the red haired Girl and the dragon will come into play at some point, but so far it has all amounted to nothing.

I liked this issue, Namor really went off the deep end lol. Starting to think that Emma's betrayal of Scott last issue was to set Namor up for a fall. Did she know that if he was taken out that they would gain his portion of the power?

I don't think she knew they would gain more power. I think she was also a sick of waiting around. She used to be bad too, so those traits and tendencies are still there I think. Emma probably didn't know that Namor was going to lose in Wakanda. If he had won she would have shown Scott that she was with Namor now. She's doing what she does best, manipulate and side with the winner.
I thought this was a pretty good issue. Cyclops should have made it more clear that Namor's attack was of his own volition and not approved by Scott. That way he and they others would still look like the good guys and just show that Namor is crazy. It would help keep the X-Men and Xavier off his back.

I don't think that Fraction is going to ignore his own continuity. Emma may die, but they'll likely make the "prepare little spirit" a part of it.

Pleasantly surprised by this issue, given how haphazard and hamfisted the last one was in comparison.

Maybe there's some trace of "Real Emma" in there who's working to bring the Phoenix down somehow?  She vowed to destroy it at the end of Warsong, after all.  This is just a wild guess, based on not much of anything.  Warsong was a long time ago and written by someone else entirely, so that part may very well just thrown to the wayside.

only 4 issues left- and the questions still revolve around - how much of the PF- history will play into this.... - emma, rachel, iron fist - hope/wanda....?! unclear.

personally -the fighting was a bit low to my taste-  the avengers beat one of the P5 - again. nothing new - and namor did not struck some of the avengers down hard enough- to settle some score. well. that his part went to the others could be entertaining if - and only if -the P4 will get better- so far (of course one can only assume that) they only managed  - to take down hawkeye.... (not taking the VS issues in account) and together the beat up the strontian. well not too bad - but not too good either....

hopefully in the next encounter - battling the avengers - the reader can SEE that the PF is still badass - till now it seems ,that when divided its power is not quite impressive..

the end -whatever will happen and going on to bring the wanda-hope-stuff to an end  - emma or scott could die - even both, but it would be an overkill. if emma would die, going all phoenix-before or maybe realising how she was corrupted and thus helping to contain-destroy it somehow - it could all be worth it, as it would be a very very worthy moment, and after all no one would ever talk about her bad and nasty past hundred years ago....

for the rest -I have to ask - xavier - REALLY???? after being off for it seems a long long time to be with his son - now he is back with an attitude   - be a good son&student or I will put you down? really.....-
not the best idea to use him anyway....

open questions - why is this such a very bad x-men-story? why is cable not awake? and what is going on with the lousy avengers.... how will one of the groups, either x-men or avengers - could be a force still in the MU world post AvX....? unlikely.

Xavier came off a little bit heavy handed to me in this issue given his demeanor in his few appearances over the past year or so. He has been such a silent pacifist in mutant affairs basically since he arrived on Utopia that For a second there I thought it was an illusion cast by the avengers to aid in their escape. I'm glad to see him finally make his presence known though.

I really liked Xavier's appearence. he has given Scott the benefit of the doubt so far but now he sees they are going to far. I can see him coming and whooping Scott.....and then Scott turning around and killing him.

I'm surprised that everyone is agreeing with Xavier. Cyclops and the others arrived to put a stop to Namor, they had nothing to do with Wakanda's destruction.

I was super disappointed that we didn't see Laurie.

Edited by Quick and Dead - 19-Jul-2012 at 12:31am