Avengers vs X-Men #8

Xavier has dealt with the Phoenix before though, and he isn't blinded the way Scott Summers is. He KNOWS that the Phoenix can not be controlled and harnessed the way the Phoenix Five are doing. I loved the Xavier moment though, I believe it was spot on. Xavier has changed, alot since Messiah CompleX, and him stepping in during AvX makes sense considering Namor just destroyed Wakanda; which would reflect badly on the rest of mutantkind after everything they've done.

I definitely think there is something going on with Emma though..first she manipulates Namor; then she's playing coy with the others. I think she's either A) Trying to take each one out for the power, B) It has to do with the words, "Prepare, little spirit." Or C) Or she's attempting to get rid of the Phoenix herself.

I don't think Namor not mentioning Laurie was a plothole moreso that it shows that Namor's rage and irresponsibility was showing. Laurie was presumably taken to K'un L'un. But htis showed like other said that the PF is slowly corrupting them and really emphasizing their more extreme traits.

And as for Xavier. He showed that while the P5 were operating on the side of angels he didn't make any moves. I mean why would he? As others have pointed out the P5 aren't doing anything bad really. But here when Namor, someone with the PF, does something so reckless that its pretty much the extreme of how he normally does things (Namor hasn't done a good ol' flood the city and kill millions thing since the SIlver Age, when it was acceptable to be an a-hole...) then Xavier knows he has to act.

I don't actually think Cyclops was going so much to stop Namor as he was going to make sure Namor didn't do AS much damage. I read it like Cyke had no problem with Namor busting up the Avengers, its just that Namor was causing mass destruction...which goes against his Pax Utopia doctrine. He was definitely going to get Hope and to kick the Avengers' ass...but also make sure no innocents died.


Edited by Blackcyclops - 19-Jul-2012 at 1:31am

Yeah. Namor. Dat fish cray.

Namor has to have a high death count though...i mean if you count htat Silver Age stuff...dude has flooded Manhattan at least twice...LOL

Does Xavier still possess the mind gem? If so, it might play a role in this event.

Yeah, I'm kind of curious how they're going to treat Namor in the next issue.  Surely he can't get off...scott (*snickers*) free.  Illyana is locked up for having the slim potential to kill.  

Thought this issue was mostly okay. Loved the Xavier part though. And like others I see exactly why Xavier comes down now. Because they are crossing a line. While Namor is the one that attacked, Emma and Magik were clearly okay with it because it brought the Avengers out, and there was no indication that the X-Men were coming to stop Namor. They very well could be coming because they could get the Avengers at last.

Wiping out major parts of Wakanda and possibly other countries, as Ciel mentioned, is not gonna bode well for the P5 in view of the world or for mutants overall. Though now that you think about it, is there like a city that gets majorly messed up now outside of New York ever since Civil War in events? Secret Invasion didn't have one that I recall, try to forget most of that, but you had Stamford in Civil War. Las Vegas got utterly screwed up badly in Fear Itself. Now Wakanda in AvX. Other cities better start fearing, no longer is it New York that gets the brunt of stuff lol.

Rushmore isn't a city...haha

Oh yes Paris, luckily they got reversed. Can't say the same for the rest. True D.C got screwed up by Kang, just find it amusing that since Civil War it's like now an event staple to screw up some non New York City and the destruction and cause are upped each time lol. Stamford just had a chunk blown up. Paris was utterly demolished and all dead by Grey Gargoyle but reversed. Las Vegas was utterly leveled for the most part by Juggernaut battle and earthquakes. Wakanda got off a bit easier though as it's not entirely wiped out or ruines, just mostly screwed up. No more people thinking they are safe outside of New York now.

Bendis was clearly trying too hard to paint the X-Men as the villains., thats what made the issue mediocre for me.

Would be a very classic/epic twist: "Son" murders "Father"

Maybe Cable in the end has to do the same with Cycke

Edited by Flapflop - 19-Jul-2012 at 9:39am

Maybe killing Xavier opens Cycke eyes and he come to his senses but then Emma attacks him to have his share of the Phoenix