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Avengers vs. X-Men #10

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  Quote UncannyScott Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Aug-2012 at 3:27pm
From the way it seems lately Uncanny Avengers will probably be his only Avengers book, since they had begun to pare him down to just one Avengers book before this event and that seems to be the book he'll be in post-AvX. I am doubting that he'll fit into Hickman's plans for Avengers, and New Avengers is said to be something different than what has come before so that probably leaves him out.

Hopefully even if he was suddenly the big guy it's portrayed the way of WATXM, someone who doesn't really fully get it and want to do it but will. Though I do think that Aaron did a good job of maturing Wolverine in his solo run into someone that is more human and has feelings and does want what is best for his fellow mutants, but still does what he does because someone has to and he doesn't want to taint the souls of some others.

But alas we shall see. Just wish it was September so we could learn more about post AVX and reach the darn end already lol. This four week gap is ridiculous.
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  Quote otaku-22 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Sep-2012 at 7:38pm
I agree with everyone who doesn't like this series, it has been bad and it's ruined the x-men, i think there setting wolverine up to be the leader of the x-men and professor x is going to dye i think (which is not a bad idea because he's been crap since grant morrisons run). and after this series is no better, the x-men from the past coming to the present is just a really bad idea.

I fear for the future of cyclops and the x-men.
See you space cowboy!!!!
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  Quote kanderson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Sep-2012 at 2:15am
My hope is in Alex right now. Logan knows he cannot be the full on leader of the X-Men, even Kitty and Beast called him out on that recently. the future of Cyclops and the X-Men is unclear but I don't see Wolverine getting the full reigns either. While I do believe he will get off for his crimes of betrayal in AVX, others like Storm and Alex can come out of Scott's shadow, and I am not saying this to dis Scott but just in general there needed to be a shift in leadership anyway and it seems like they will be making Alex's role bigger which is cool with me.
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  Quote northy33 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Sep-2012 at 8:01am
but everything in Marvel Now is pointing to havok being the "star"-mutant "opposing" cap and the avengers in a very particular way, not as "leader of the x-men"...

while his role could even get bigger - probably wise, as he is in some way the always much neglected character, not only beside his brother, but as well in comparison as "side-kick" of his be-loved polaris.... we will have to wait and see, what his role among x-men, if any, will be.

interestingly enough, everything concerning x-men-leadership etc. is now linked to wolverine - and here it has been said, numerous times, that not only the outcome of AvX , but especially the end of the ongoing story-line in UX-force will change logan definitly.  maybe that is the reason why there is still so much speculation on "new" x-books and not so many new announciations.

let the play begin
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  Quote KaleRylan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Sep-2012 at 1:15pm
Originally posted by kanderson

My hope is in Alex right now. Logan knows he cannot be the full on leader of the X-Men, even Kitty and Beast called him out on that recently. the future of Cyclops and the X-Men is unclear but I don't see Wolverine getting the full reigns either. While I do believe he will get off for his crimes of betrayal in AVX, others like Storm and Alex can come out of Scott's shadow, and I am not saying this to dis Scott but just in general there needed to be a shift in leadership anyway and it seems like they will be making Alex's role bigger which is cool with me.


Reading your comments, it occurred to me that it would be kind of cool if they developed a 'council' to lead the X-men.  With maybe Alex, Storm, Logan, Scott (with maybe a cooldown period before he joins), and Rogue or something on it (are there any other good female leaders in the X-men, I can't remember).  With it explicitly stated that none of them have the authority that Scott had before, that they have to sort of 'vote' on major decisions.  I'm not sure how you could do it, but it might be an interesting change and make sense for a team that has become so large.
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  Quote kanderson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Sep-2012 at 7:46pm
Well the Female leadership is behind Rogue and Storm.  Rogue gains a lot fo respect from most X-Men parties, even if Scott at times thought of her as a loose cannon.  by not always following strict orders.  Storm always commands strong leadership.  And of course I guess there is Kitty.  Emma and Scott would be sitting out for a LONG time, I don't think we will see any sort of return to full leadership of Scott for a few good years at least.
So I guess maybe folks like Alex, Logan, Rogue, Storm, Bobby, and Magneto.  I do think Erik will come out of all this looking alright because he went against Scott in the end.  Erik also has come a far way in his development just from the preview page of the upcoming AVX #11 where Erik says that Scott has become like him.  and where Scott replies, I am nothing like you I am winning.  - Erik did not look happy by this revelation, rather he seemed to have gained new prespective about who he was.
 
The big question is if the mutants will still reside at the old Utopia or will they all move back to the East Coast?  if they stay on Utopia there will have to be a new governing body for the mutant population. 
 
you know Cable actually would be good as a co-governor as well because he has already kind of lead his own little country/population for a while.


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  Quote Cable Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Sep-2012 at 11:31am
Perhaps in hindsight we should have been wary that this event was being written by the flagship writer for Avengers but not by the one for X-Men. Here is the line-up with their current main titles:

Bendis (Avengers)
Fraction (Iron Man)
Brubaker (Captain America)
Hickman (Fantastic Four)
Aaron (Wolverine/Wolverine and the X-Men)

Yeah thats balanced...



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  Quote UncannyScott Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Sep-2012 at 2:20pm
Well technically there was a flagship writer on it. Aaron and Gillen were both considered to be writing the flagship title of their side of the schism. But overall the writers were heavily from the Avengers side of things, even if Fraction and Brubaker had been on X-Men in the past. 
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  Quote northy33 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Sep-2012 at 3:29pm
still it could be - post AvX - that because of something happening in the end - mutant-numbers, increasing, re-powering?!, m-day?! - that the x-men's-mutant-philosophy could be reversed, we still have no information if there could be some INTERESTING end , even if the event itself was only dreadful (and dreadfully pro-avengers, without any positive evidence there... except a movie's success....).
 
let the play begin
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