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EvilMonkeyPope
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Posted: 26-Aug-2012 at 4:23am |
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Wolverine must figure out which of the original X-Men killed past Iceman to save present Iceman from a reality-destroying paradox!
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Well I don't think anyone is saying they want all the art to be exactly the same, but Marvel has seemingly thrown away anything regarding continuity of looks in recent years. Where in one comic Storm can suddenly have a mohawk cause the artist wants it while all others are her long hair, or Beast is Ape Beast in one comic and cat beast in others. It's not that people are calling for all art to be the same but for there to be consistency when it comes to a character model, and then artists can have their differing takes on a few things. It'd be like if suddenly a new artist comes into Spider-Man and for one arc for no reason he's wearing the black suit just cause the artist likes that suit. It would be jarring and wouldn't make sense if there was no in story reason for it.
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In response to evilmonkeypope's most clever plot details
Complete brain meltdown occurring in 5..4..3..2..Rabbit...
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Posted: 26-Aug-2012 at 9:09pm |
The third All New X-Men cover reveals the post-Avengers vs. X-Men Extinction Team. Behold the spoilers. Behold them!
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Posted: 26-Aug-2012 at 10:09pm |
Thinking back to the sliding timescale discussion, it really doesn't make any in-story sense for early Marvel books. Instead of being set in an ambiguous time period, they're very clearly set in the 1960s. It'd ring false to me if none of the O5 were gobsmacked by 50 years rather than a decade of culture shock. "Back up on this DOFP thing. Tell me about carrying around my entire record collection in a box the size of a card deck first. I don't even need to put mini-LPs in it? Why is it called an 'eye pod?' And everybody, not just superheroes, has portable telephones that are also computers that they keep in their pockets. How'd you make computers smaller than a refridgerator?"
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Posted: 26-Aug-2012 at 10:41pm |
Originally posted by Majestic
The third All New X-Men cover reveals the post-Avengers vs. X-Men Extinction Team. Behold the spoilers. Behold them! |
who is the guy in the background?
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Posted: 26-Aug-2012 at 10:42pm |
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The third All New X-Men cover reveals the post-Avengers vs. X-Men Extinction Team. Behold the spoilers. Behold them! |
Wait...Emma Frost AND Cyclops survives? That's impossible...I mean where will the outrage come from if Emma and Cyclops survive? Us Cyclops fans can't be mad and Emma Frost fans can't be mad...someone MUST DIE!!!!
But wait...there is no Xavier and who's the black guy????
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"And someone's mom wants to eat all their souls. As a mom, I was offended. Moms should get to be role models, too."-Savant
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Posted: 26-Aug-2012 at 10:53pm |
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The third All New X-Men cover reveals the post-Avengers vs. X-Men Extinction Team. Behold the spoilers. Behold them! |
Thank god!!! At least we have some sort of confirmation. And now I don't care if they shamelessly pit All New Jean vs. Emma or make Wolverine the father of all mutants and the person who restarts mutant births, I am just happy to get this team still.
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The suspense is wild...
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Posted: 26-Aug-2012 at 10:54pm |
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Well, a certain member of the XTinction team known for sacrifice is mysteriously not there....
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"I'm a prisoner. I have to be a prisoner. I'm a political prisoner. I'm not going to let them turn me into a criminal."
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Posted: 26-Aug-2012 at 11:57pm |
Originally posted by UncannyScott
Well I don't think anyone is saying they want all the art to be exactly the same, but Marvel has seemingly thrown away anything regarding continuity of looks in recent years. Where in one comic Storm can suddenly have a mohawk cause the artist wants it while all others are her long hair, or Beast is Ape Beast in one comic and cat beast in others. It's not that people are calling for all art to be the same but for there to be consistency when it comes to a character model, and then artists can have their differing takes on a few things. It'd be like if suddenly a new artist comes into Spider-Man and for one arc for no reason he's wearing the black suit just cause the artist likes that suit. It would be jarring and wouldn't make sense if there was no in story reason for it.
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I think I feel the opposite. the whole ordeal with spiderman bringing out the black suit in "back in black" to show he was angry was kinda lame. He's not a gov't worker or George Jetson, why can't he decide to wear one of his many different spider themed costumes when he feels like it. like wise for Storm, why can't she shave her head, throw on a wig, or add some extensions every other mission?
I can understand The whole ape / cat beast conundrum needing a little consistency since its a little harder to reconcile changes in genetic makeup. Also, his appearance has some effect on his powers as I don't think a cat can hang upside down the same way an ape can. But to play devils advocate, the way some artists draw cat beast...I am fine with them choosing to do the ape version instead lol.
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Posted: 27-Aug-2012 at 12:18am |
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Called it somewhere else on this forum that there was a third part of this cower.... Still no Warren though... Which worries me a bit.... This cover also has me worries over Colossus... While in the Dark Avengers it was stated that "Something very big and unstoppable" would return, it could very well be Cain reclaiming the mantle of Cyttorak after Peter passes away....
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Posted: 27-Aug-2012 at 1:01am |
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Again, it comes back to interpretation. Though I don't have a problem with Storm having a different hair style every other mission, throwing on wigs etc. I think the Mohawk was taking it too far. The whole point of the mohawk during the 80s was to show a change in Ororo's attitude. Not to mention reflecting the punk DIY fashion influence in the 80s. Throwing it back on the "Queen" Ororo nowadays seemed a little off to me. That being said, I absolutely love the punk Storm look but unfortunately that is not where the character is. But different outfits, costume variations are totally fine, especially for characters that are known to be "fashionistas" or concerned with what they're wearing like Emma.
My initial reaction on the cover: YES THEY LIVE!!
Two seconds later.... it's still only a cover. There can still be a possibility either (or both) Emma and Scott die. But good to get some sort of indication that they might be around. Hrm, artist interpretation again perhaps?
edit: They wouldn't kill off Colossus again, would they!? Wouldn't he be like "Can someone else sacrifice themselves for mutantkind, I sorta already this". Plus, he's already given up the Phoenix force. Maybe there will be some sort of mutation of the Cyttorok powers after this phoenix ordeal and he will become a villain?
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Posted: 27-Aug-2012 at 1:16am |
Originally posted by BeastieLovingX-Fan1
Thanks fellas… So at best we can narrow the timeframe down to between issues #8 (IF Iceman is indeed "icy" and NOT "snowy") and issue #27 where the entry for that issue on this site reads, "… they are new costumes, slightly redesigned versions of their old ones, a gift from Jean. They now have red belts and the shirts are not fully yellow anymore, but only on the front and backs. Additionally, Marvel Girl now only wears a face mask instead one that covered her entire head." Soooo going back and looking at the cover for All New X-Men #1 it appears that while Jean's face-mask and the color of the teams' belts are yellow… Their shirts are NOT fully yellow anymore… I know I'm being a description nazi on this one but still… What I get for being bored on a beautiful Saturday afternoon… |
I had narrowed it down to 18-24 (Iceman's boots and Jean wasn't with the X-men for 25 and 26) but who knows how accurate they'll actually be.
Majestic - Thank You! You made my day with that third ANXM cover! It's a good indicator that maybe Emma isn't the John/Jane Doe (but you never really know - this might turn out to be pre-AVX). I'll keep my fingers crossed.
Any idea who that mysterious guy on the right side might be? I thought maybe Prodigy, but Prodigy is usually depicted slimmer and younger. I'm starting to think he and the mysterious woman in red from cover #2 will be replaced once the covers are actually released.
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Posted: 27-Aug-2012 at 2:28am |
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I'm genuinely shocked to see all of this artwork featuring Emma Frost.
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Revenant is Coming.
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Posted: 27-Aug-2012 at 2:39am |
Originally posted by ev82
Originally posted by Majestic
The third All New X-Men cover reveals the post-Avengers vs. X-Men Extinction Team. Behold the spoilers. Behold them! |
who is the guy in the background? |
Either the artist seems not to know that Madison Jeffries isn't an old man and has a military background, or Harold Ramis is joining the team.
Edited by Ciel - 27-Aug-2012 at 2:39am
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Posted: 27-Aug-2012 at 2:52am |
Originally posted by Lorr
Originally posted by UncannyScott
Well I don't think anyone is saying they want all the art to be exactly the same, but Marvel has seemingly thrown away anything regarding continuity of looks in recent years. Where in one comic Storm can suddenly have a mohawk cause the artist wants it while all others are her long hair, or Beast is Ape Beast in one comic and cat beast in others. It's not that people are calling for all art to be the same but for there to be consistency when it comes to a character model, and then artists can have their differing takes on a few things. It'd be like if suddenly a new artist comes into Spider-Man and for one arc for no reason he's wearing the black suit just cause the artist likes that suit. It would be jarring and wouldn't make sense if there was no in story reason for it.
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I think I feel the opposite. the whole ordeal with spiderman bringing out the black suit in "back in black" to show he was angry was kinda lame. He's not a gov't worker or George Jetson, why can't he decide to wear one of his many different spider themed costumes when he feels like it. like wise for Storm, why can't she shave her head, throw on a wig, or add some extensions every other mission?
I can understand The whole ape / cat beast conundrum needing a little consistency since its a little harder to reconcile changes in genetic makeup. Also, his appearance has some effect on his powers as I don't think a cat can hang upside down the same way an ape can. But to play devils advocate, the way some artists draw cat beast...I am fine with them choosing to do the ape version instead lol. |
agreed...
If Iron Man can switchup armors for certain situations, superheroes should be able to say eff it and wear other costumes.
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"And someone's mom wants to eat all their souls. As a mom, I was offended. Moms should get to be role models, too."-Savant
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Posted: 27-Aug-2012 at 3:28am |
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Wigs and extensions are fly so I'm backing this as well, especially for people like Emma Frost, and Storm, who've caught flak for their inconsistent looks throughout the years. Both women are wealthy and in the public eye to some degree; surely they change their appearance from time to time.
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Revenant is Coming.
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Posted: 27-Aug-2012 at 4:19am |
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The fact that Colossus isn't shown annoys me. Cain comes back as Juggernaut and he's leaving the other X-men team soonish. Would they really kill him...again?
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Posted: 27-Aug-2012 at 4:28am |
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I doubt they're killing him.
SPOILERY
I'm pretty sure one of the Editor's indicated that Colossus would be a character to watch for in 2013.
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Revenant is Coming.
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Posted: 27-Aug-2012 at 4:42am |
Originally posted by InsipidLust
I doubt they're killing him.
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I'm pretty sure one of the Editor's indicated that Colossus would be a character to watch for in 2013. |
Oh? I don't suppose you have the link to the article, hmm? As long as Emma, Scott and Piotr are still safe I'm good.
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Posted: 27-Aug-2012 at 5:03am |
Originally posted by InsipidLust
I doubt they're killing him.
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I'm pretty sure one of the Editor's indicated that Colossus would be a character to watch for in 2013. |
they did..
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=40276
doesnt really say much tho...
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Posted: 27-Aug-2012 at 6:29am |
Originally posted by InsipidLust
Wigs and extensions are fly so I'm backing this as well, especially for people like Emma Frost, and Storm, who've caught flak for their inconsistent looks throughout the years. Both women are wealthy and in the public eye to some degree; surely they change their appearance from time to time. |
If Beyonce can do it, why not Storm?
I have a hard time making a real life parallel for Emma Frost...she's like an amalgam of different people...
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"And someone's mom wants to eat all their souls. As a mom, I was offended. Moms should get to be role models, too."-Savant
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Posted: 27-Aug-2012 at 2:07pm |
Originally posted by Ciel
Originally posted by ev82
Originally posted by Majestic
The third All New X-Men cover reveals the post-Avengers vs. X-Men Extinction Team. Behold the spoilers. Behold them! |
who is the guy in the background? | Either the artist seems not to know that Madison Jeffries isn't an old man and has a military background, or Harold Ramis is joining the team.
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Or maybe the world is saved and the mutant gene kickstarted so that there can be an actual meaning to All-New X-Men.
But seriously, the only thing I'm dreading is when O5 someone dies in the present just because I have this awful feeling that Bendis can't resist going with the obvious way out.
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Posted: 27-Aug-2012 at 2:49pm |
Originally posted by Blackcyclops
Originally posted by InsipidLust
Wigs and extensions are fly so I'm backing this as well, especially for people like Emma Frost, and Storm, who've caught flak for their inconsistent looks throughout the years. Both women are wealthy and in the public eye to some degree; surely they change their appearance from time to time. |
If Beyonce can do it, why not Storm?
I have a hard time making a real life parallel for Emma Frost...she's like an amalgam of different people... |
I say a mix of Nicole Kidman in looks and Cher in plastic surgery.
I won't say Madonna because that's just mean.
And ooo to that cover.
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So Scott AND Emma are alive. Yup Xavier's dead, haha. How unexciting and unoriginal. If had any role in the X-Men in the last five to ten years it would have much more of an impact but he's been MIA for so long. I sort of wanted Cyke to die, it just felt like that's where his character arc should go, unless his new character arc has him on the outskirts of the mutant hierarchy, now that would be interesting and honestly I'd sign with him sooner then I'd sign with Wolverine...but either way Emma lives! EMMA LIVES!! WOOOO!
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So Cyke and Emma survive (albeit without the Phoenix force) and more than likely Professor X bites the big one??? At least one Avenger should die for this atrocity!!! >=(
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RIP MCA… Beasties FOREVER homes!!! Viva la Raza Latina y Mutante!!! Cyclops Was Right! RIP Professor Charles Francis Xavier… The mutant king is dead… Long live the mutant king!
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