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  Quote grief Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Apr-2012 at 7:14pm
Originally posted by RingOtaku

I didn't really see it as Riddler being "stupid" as recall the ambush wasn't meant to kill all of YJ as the Light still had use of it's mole. Riddler was following orders which probably included going back to jail as we've established Belle Reeve isn't a threat anymore due to it being under their control.


Ah, but keep in mind that this incident also exposed the plot going on at Belle Reeve.

I think that the Light intentionally sacrificed some of their pawns - including the Riddler - in order to get the Starro pieces in YJ's (and thereby the League's) hands.

I also would have love more terrible pun-riddles though. "I am-bush" cracked me up. : )
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  Quote RingOtaku Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Apr-2012 at 7:47pm
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Originally posted by RingOtaku

I didn't really see it as Riddler being "stupid" as recall the ambush wasn't meant to kill all of YJ as the Light still had use of it's mole. Riddler was following orders which probably included going back to jail as we've established Belle Reeve isn't a threat anymore due to it being under their control.


Ah, but keep in mind that this incident also exposed the plot going on at Belle Reeve.

I think that the Light intentionally sacrificed some of their pawns - including the Riddler - in order to get the Starro pieces in YJ's (and thereby the League's) hands.

I also would have love more terrible pun-riddles though. "I am-bush" cracked me up. : )


Partly. It wasn't until the very end of the episode after the further fight with Luthor's crew and the confirmation that things were more wide-spread yet organized that they mentioned the League taking official action. Plus Batman had hinted that the suspicion was already there after the Ice Fortresses episode.
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  Quote EvilMonkeyPope Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Apr-2012 at 9:15pm
I know The Light was sacrificing pawns & the Riddler thought they'd let him out of Belle Reve later (though it's implied that he escaped without outside help in Terrors), but it's still a stupid plan for their "master strategist." He could've actually put some thought into seriously incapacitating the team & they still could've pulled off the JL mind control scheme. Robin aside, the team would've had a much tougher time with his brand of brain teasers rather than a nameless henchman fight. As BTAS & the Arkham video games show, Riddler is so much cooler when he controls his deathtraps from remote locations rather than in person. He's smart enough to reakize heroes have no reason to play his games if they can beat him with one punch. He'd also be smart enough to delegate "taking the fall" to others even if he wasn't in on the Light's  full plan.
It was odd that the JL inducted Icon when Rocket revealed she had gotten him into the superhero business. Didn't they decide a couple  episodes ago that it was Captain Marvel's experience not his age that merited his membership? It seems they just inducted Icon because he was older & more powerful han her.
Another wierd thing about the show is that the villains are supposed to be getting more dangerous thanks to their advanced tech & unusal team-ups. This only came across well in the Injustice League episode. They haven't shown us the days prior to the Light so there's not much of a sense of escalation. The villains have been performing at at a level that's consistent with other cartoon depictions of them. Sometimes the villains even get easier to beat as the show progresses. It took Aqualad, Superboy, Kid-Flash, & Robin to defeat Blockbuster the first time. Mammoth is infused with both Venom & Blockbuster serum but he's defeated by Aqualad & Superboy pretty fast in his first appearance. THen Blockbuster is defeated by a single foam arrow. Aren't the badguys supposed to be learning new tricks to keep the heroes & audience on their toes?
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  Quote marhawkman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Apr-2012 at 5:57am
Yeah that thing with Mammoth was weird...  Him vs Superboy is plausible because Canary has been teaching him martial arts.  the foam arrow? um what was that made of?

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  Quote EvilMonkeyPope Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Apr-2012 at 8:29am
So ... was everybody underwhelmed by the finale too?
The best part was Vandal Savage's monologue about the JL preventing humanity from evolving. The runner up was Red Tornado being constantly wrecked in graphicly violent ways.
The Starro tech bugged me. Even if it's infused with magic & nanotech, I don't believe it could control Dr. Fate. The Helmet of Nabu already has a monopoly on controlling Zatara's body. Red Tornado could counter its effects but not a Lord of Order? Then the team (seriously writers, give the team an actual name on the show so we know what to call them) quickly has Mera & Dr. Roquette make an antidote offscreen. That's a terrible cop out. We saw all the effort the light put into making Starro tech & Sidekicks Assembled just wave it away like it was on clearance at the Maguffin Store.
The JL fight was more bland than I expected. I expected Klarion to do a better job controlling them since he's a sadistic prick. They should've made this a 3-parter so they could adequately follow through on last week's superb cliffhanger.
So The Light still need the JL alive for undisclosed reasons? That's unfortunate. It would've really been shocking if they killed the JL after they finished mind controlling them. The stakes would've been really raised if Sidekicks Assembled (that's what I'm calling them until they admit they're the Teen Titans) became the only superhero team in the world. Though it's not like thos JL has been that effective. Sidekicks Assembled was a way bigger pain in the neck for The Light than the JL. If they still need the JL, why not kill those meddlesome kids at least?
The problem with this finale was that there was no pay off. We don't learn what The Light's endgame is. We just know there's a phase 2 because phase 1 turned out to be half-baked. Even if they only needed the JL as slaves for 16 hours, wouldn't they want to keep them that way to minimize screw ups in phase 2? Weisman promised one of the main characters would die, but I guess we have to wait until season 2 ends. But there's no oomph left to get me excited for season 2. I never cared for Speedy so I don't care about him looking for the one-armed original. Where was the JL angrily vowing to take down The Light. After this stunt, the JL can't keep delegaing that task to their sidekicks if they want to look competent. You don't have to tell me exactly what phase 2 is, but show me something thrilling or surprising to keep me interested in this leisurely paced program. This show is so close to awesome but it keeps bunting.
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  Quote Lorr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Apr-2012 at 4:53pm
I enjoyed the finale. The offscreen starrotech antivirus was majorly convenient lol, but That was the only thing I groaned at. I loved watching robin/superboy vs batman/superman. Dick whipping out his sticks on Bruce was pure gold as I don't recall him ever bringing them out in this show. And i love how this version of Connor has two personal sidekicks to help him out in battle. I actually liked the explanation of klarion controlling the league as to why they didn't just massacre the kids. He couldn't possibly have been able to control all of them at peak performance, especially at the same time. Some of the leaguers did go down kind of easily though, and I wish I could have seen a better battle between kid flash, zatanna, aqua lad,Artemis and their mentors. but overall I was entertained. Thankfully so as I've given up on all other cartoons at this point.

Oh, and It was a nice wink to JLU that the six leaguers who have 16 hours of unaccounted time are the ones from the original Justice League cartoon.
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  Quote Blackcyclops Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Apr-2012 at 10:41pm
It was an interesting finale. I was expecting much more of a cliffhanger here to be honest.

The pairing of the kissing was too obvious lol I mean I expected Kid Flash/Artemis and Connor/Me'gan. I think it would have been more interesting to have matched up Zatanna and Aqualad (he's older and she seems older too) and Rocket and Robin.
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  Quote Lorr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Apr-2012 at 10:59pm
....or aqua lad and red arrow.
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  Quote Anna Raven Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Apr-2012 at 5:37am
Originally posted by EvilMonkeyPope

So ... was everybody underwhelmed by the finale too?


Actually I think I was quite whelmed by the final episode.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

I did like it quite a bit though. It was fun seeing YJ take on the JL.

And I am quite excited for next season, having seen the preview at the end of the show and which Titans they plan on bringing in next!
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  Quote Blackcyclops Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Apr-2012 at 3:05pm
I missed the preview...who did they show?

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Season 2 Preview

Found it...anyone want to take a guess at naming all the new characters?

Slowing it down:

Batgirl (first video)
Godfrey (first video...Darkseid is coming?)
Beast Boy (first video)
Tattoo Man (second video)
Lobo (second video)
Bumble Bee (second video): I guess she finally gets some powers.
Blue Beetle (second video)
Wonder Girl (second video)

Does it look like Dick changed his costume?

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  Quote EvilMonkeyPope Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Apr-2012 at 11:58pm
So is Invasion/season 2 starting this weekend?
The JL getting beaten easily because only Klarion was controlling them was weak. Did the rest of The Light really need to stand around at Cadmus while lackeys moved stuff around. No they did not. Some of them could've shared the high stakes workload with the witch-boy.
I wish they had explained what The Light's motive was. I understand that they could get more done by pooling resources, but to what end? Do they want to conquer the world? Do they want to destroy the JL? Most of their scheming ended up being wheel-spinning since only Starro & Cadmus were directly relevant to phase 1. What would get all these ambitious & arrogant supervillains to work together without constant in-fighting.? Why are they so chill about the JL constantly siccing their sidekicks on them?
The finale really needed something to restore my confidence in the JL since it wasn't destroyed.  They've only really seemed effective when fighting the Injustice Gang's plants & flying snow machines. Sidekicks Assembled  even took down a fully programmed Amazo with less trouble than them. If The Light is made of the world's big bads, that what threats were keeping the JL constantly distracted from them? Why should I feel the JL is a credible force if they keep delegating the heavy lifting to their sidekicks. The JL was more concerned about M'gann pretending to be Black Canary than their bodies being hijacked by evildoers for 16 hours. They needed to rousingly declare  "It's time to turn off The Light!"
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  Quote marhawkman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Apr-2012 at 6:25pm
Wow... I guess since they had to delay airing part of season one they decided to simply show season 2 immediately afterwards?
 
As for why the Starro-tech was so easy to break...  Most things are easier to break than to build. :/  the more complicated they are the worse the issue is.


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  Quote Anna Raven Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Apr-2012 at 1:03am
Wow I did not expect them to move THAT far into the future. Crazy!

I liked it though, as it leaves you with lots of interesting mysteries to watch unfold. Top of mind include:

-Why did Conner and M'Gann break up?
-What happened to Artemis, Aqualad, Red Arrow, and Kid Flash?
-What happened with Zatara and Dr Fate?
-Is the Light still operating?

I thought Wonder Girl and Batgirl were very cool. Blue Beetle was cool too. Not sure who the hell Lagoon is? It was cool to see Beast Boy, but it's wierd to me he always has a tail now I guess? And he didnt get to do much this episode.

Since they added Beast Boy I wonder if Raven, Starfire, and Cyborg can be far behind?

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  Quote Blackcyclops Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Apr-2012 at 5:47am
I saw Dr. Fate so I think he's probably still the host.

I'm not 100% sold on the 5 year time jump. Only because I feel like I wanted to see Robin progress into Nightwing.

So is the new squad: Superboy, Miss Martian, Nightwing, Robin, Bumblebee, Supergirl, Batgirl, Beast Boy, Lagoon (he's a Titan too), and Mal/Herald...

So we see that Zatanna and Rocket are now on the League, as well as Black Lightning (man this the most black folks I've ever seen on the League at once LOL). So how many members of the League is that now?

I wonder is Wally the Flash?
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  Quote Anna Raven Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Apr-2012 at 6:35am
Oh was that Black Lightning? The new liason? For some reason I was thinking it was Mr Terrrific.

Also it's Wonder Girl not Supergirl. But I'm guessing you knew that, just a typo.
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  Quote Blackcyclops Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Apr-2012 at 6:45am
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Oh was that Black Lightning? The new liason? For some reason I was thinking it was Mr Terrrific.

Also it's Wonder Girl not Supergirl. But I'm guessing you knew that, just a typo.


Yeah definitely a typo...

nah that was Mal Duncan who is Herald.

Black Lightning was in the big scene of Justice Leaugers who came at the end.
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  Quote Anna Raven Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Apr-2012 at 7:24am
Oh okay - ill have to go back and look - there were so many Leaguers there I totally missed a few.
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  Quote EvilMonkeyPope Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Apr-2012 at 10:50am
Tim Curry as Glorious Gordon Godfrey for the win!
Have these aliens appeared in any comics?
Wonder Girl blowing out the windows when she punched Lobo was awesome.
I wonder what happened to Aqualad? He was created for this show but got the least development. It'd be weird to drop him without exploring his connection to Black Manta.
I'm glad M'Gann & Superboy broke up because my disdain for Superboy is unabated.
I don't want to live in a world where Captain Atom gives the JL orders.
Bumblebee looks cool. She's meeting with Dr. Palmer so I'm guessing the Atom is unfortunately not Ryan Choi.
Does anybody think Lagoon Boy might be killed? He's obscure, dead in the comics, broke up a popular (?) ship, is eager to prove himself, & was kind of obnoxious.
I'm not sure how I feel about the 5 year jump. Has anybody made headway against the Light? Why didn't the JL consider they'd been sent to other planets any time in the past 5 years?


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  Quote marhawkman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Apr-2012 at 11:39am
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  Quote Cyke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Apr-2012 at 2:58am
Originally posted by Blackcyclops

I wonder is Wally the Flash?


I fear the Dido/Johns attitude of 'Who is Wally?" has now reached here. Throw in reports of Conroy possibly doing Thomas Wayne in an animated Flashpoint and things don't look good for Wally at all.

That's the only thing I didn't like about this opener. I like the 5 year jump, leaves plenty of room to fill in and explore what happened to our favorite characters. It's great to see Cassie and Barbara and my favorite Robin Tim finally appears. Blue Beetle was cool too. Love his 'discussions' with the scarab. 

The other thing I can't wait for - Adam Strange to get his jetpack. Wink
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  Quote EvilMonkeyPope Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Apr-2012 at 6:01am
Adam Strange's jetpack is gonna be sweet. It's 90% of why he's still relevant.
It was odd that Adam says he only went to Rann a few months ago. In the comics, Sardath of Rann invented the Zeta Beam. I thought the JL were using Zeta Beams because Adam gave them the tech after going to Rann. So if Adam only went to Rann recently, who gave the JL this tech? Did humans invent it? It doesn't seem likely to be explained, so why not place Adam's trip to Rann before the series started?
I hope they don't hook up Wonder Girl & Superboy.  
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  Quote Cyke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Apr-2012 at 4:55pm
J'onn did say that Adam was the one helping them keep tabs on all the alien tech they acquire. So the JL probably encountered the Zeta Beam tech previously and Adam helped develop it for them.

But it would be easier to just explain that he went to Rann before the series and thus had the tech for the JL to use.

I'm just glad they're not using Boom Tubes.
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  Quote marhawkman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Apr-2012 at 9:31pm
Maybe the JLA figured out how to make it work by getting it from a third party?  though I suspect that it's probably one of Rann's greatest secrets.

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  Quote EvilMonkeyPope Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-May-2012 at 4:38am
Adam Strange was teleported to Rann six months ago.
Sardath: My zeta beam was a success!
Adam: Oh, zeta beams? Earth has been using them for teleportation for over five years. I'm a zeta beam technician. No big deal.
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  Quote Lorr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-May-2012 at 11:29pm
I don't follow news on this show so I had no idea that season 2 was starting so soon after season 1, nor did i know that the name of the show changed, negating my original DVR settings to record all new episodes, so when I finally came across this episode I was shocked, especially at the time jump and all of the new members.

It's a happy shock though.  Cassie, Barbara, and Tim are three of my favorite DC characters, and I never thought it was even a possibility they would be on the team(s) this season.  Can't wait to find out what happened with the rest of the old gang and who else might pop up.
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